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Images Released Of New Linden Hills Development

Project planned for former Linden Corner site.

Just in time for his presentation before the Linden Hills Neighborhood Council, developer Mark Dwyer released the above image of his 4250 Upton project Monday afternoon. 

The condo building is planned for the site of the former Linden Corner project, at 43rd and Upton in the heart of the Linden Hills village. It is only about half the size of the Linden Corner project, though, and fits within the site's current zoning.

Dwyer will present the details of his proposal to the neighborhood on Thursday, Aug. 16, at 7 p.m. at the rec center.

Anna Schier August 14, 2012 at 06:00 AM
What's your reaction to this new visual and the significant reduction in size compared to the original project?
Jeff Z August 14, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Linden Hills will turn into nothing more than a strip mall. We cannot call it historic Linden Hills any more. With Bayers Family Hardware store closing after 90 years, we only have recent businesses. The Linden Corner project just cements that. It is sad. A big part of Linden Hills will die when Bayers finally closes its doors. Within a few years the Linden Hills business district will be dead, there is nothing unique or historic in Linden Hills anymore. Nearby Excelsior and Grand (by highway 100) project has failed, and the 50th and Xerxes project has failed, Linden Hills will follow their failures. Customers have a lot of choices with retailers (50th and France, the Mega Mall, Uptown, etc.), and there is no reason for them to come to Linden Hills anymore. Condos have been dead for years. It is a sad time, some day we are going to look back and regret our short sightedness, we are going to regret the closing of Bayers Family Hardware. It is a sad time for Linden Hills, Minneapolis, Minnesota, and the United States of America “Bob, Joe, Mike and all the employees of Bayer’s Do It Best Hardware “offered exceptional customer service that even Nordstrom’s could not match” Bayers Hardware exceptional customers service for 90 years. Bayers Hardware would still be going strong if not Settegren's Ace Hardware opening a store just feet from them. It’s an unfortunate situation. Bob Bayers is a good man, may god bless him, and everyone wishes him well in retirement.
Joseph Albright August 14, 2012 at 03:05 PM
This will all end in tears.
James Sanna (Editor) August 14, 2012 at 03:40 PM
@Joseph Albright - What about the project makes you skeptical?
John Reinan August 14, 2012 at 03:43 PM
If Settergen had not come into that spot, Frattallone's or Jerry's would have. And the end result for Bob would have been the same. Let's not forget that the Settergren family has actually been in the hardware business longer than the Bayers family has. They are every bit as much a neighborhood business as Bayers was, just operating a somewhat larger store.
Jeff Z August 14, 2012 at 03:58 PM
if you look at the facts, Big Box retailers like Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Menards, Lowes, and Target have been destroying small businesses for years. If one adds how internet retailers are thriving, small brick and motar business are facing even more heartache. Yes, if you are unique, places like 50th and France where small businesses can thrive, but for every example like that there are dozens who have failed. And with Bob Bayer’s family Hardware leaving, there is nothing historic or unique in Linden Hills. It is basically a strip mall. The only things unique are the restaurants. There is nothing historic or unique about Settergren's Ace Hardware except convince of location, and there are several competitors close by. Look at all the businesses that have failed in Linden Hills, Chaize store has sat empty for a year. Look at all the failed businesses and empty sites at Excelsior and Grand (by highway 100). Or the failure of the 50th and Xerxes site. Even Uptown small businesses are being replaced by major retailers. This is going on all over the country, not just in Linden Hills, Minneapolis, or Minnesota.
Jeff Z August 14, 2012 at 04:13 PM
@ John ReinanTo add a little color to the situation. Severely Outbidding Frattallone’s Ace Hardware, which owns 18 stores in the Twin Cities, should have been a warning sign. Jerry’s Do it Best Hardware, is a part of the Jerry’s organization, a successful billion dollar operation that operates many retailers. Very good at what they do, so when Settergren’s Ace Hardware massively outbid them by the Linden Hills Property, and paid $1.5 million, warning flags should have gone up. Looks like someone didn’t do their due diligence. “According to Ace, a store about the size of Settergren’s in Linden Hills—averages about $2 million in annual revenue”. Settergren’s paid way too much for the property. When one calculates the profit on those sales numbers, things look very dismal. It looks like Mark Settergren wants to take business from all the other Linden Hills stores besides Bob Bayer’s Do it Best Hardware. “He wants to re-create the atmosphere that’s worked so well for him. When he ran Settergren Hardware and Variety with his father at the other locations, they sold toys, toiletries, sewing supplies, even greeting cards. I have something for the kids, the mom, and the dad.” So he will be taking business away from: The Bibelot, Uniquely Yours, Creative Kidstuff, Oscar & Belle, Wild Rumpus, Wonderment
Jeff Z August 14, 2012 at 04:16 PM
@Joseph Albright - U R right IMHO “Settegren's Ace Hardware in Linden Hills closing soon; will be gone in a couple of years. How is Settegren's going to compete against all the other large and small neighborhood hardware stores nearby? the nearby opening soon Menards store on 494 and Nicollet, Minneapolis Minnesota? The new Menards store will take business away from both the Settegren’s Hardware on 54th and Penn, and their store in Linden Hills. Settegren's stores a mile apart, cannibalize each other’s business. Price of Shovels Grills etc. near 40% cheaper at nearby Menards, Target, Home Depot, Wal-Mart. Menards and Home Depot have customer service, more selection, better quality. Settegren's made a very bad move coming to Linden Hills. The location is hard to get to, a lake on one side and only through residential neighborhoods on other sides. The store is 3 times larger than Bayer’s. Settegren’s will never attract enough business to be profitable. Hennepin County tax records paid $1,500,000 for the building on 2813 West 43rd Strret. That is before remodeling costs, let’s give that $500,000. So they start off with a debt of $2 million. And they have other expenses. And the taxes are $52,996.76. They may have won the bidding battle by severely overpaying, but they will lose the war... Didn’t Settegren’s Notice that the only businesses that succeed in Linden Hills are restaurants and small business, and most retail businesses fail in Linden Hills?”
LH August 14, 2012 at 04:23 PM
It's unfortunate that this project is going to dominate the appearance of downtown Linden Hills in a major way and that such a limited number of people dictate and get to chose what that look will be for Linden Hills.The design is so bland and suburban and already overdone throughout the city. It in no way fits in or matches with the existing storefronts and buildings. The loss of a restaurant and the little corner park is also really a shame. I would have expected more from the architects.
Jeff Z August 14, 2012 at 10:34 PM
@ brian ehlers Thanks for proving my point “The property owners who are gauging the small business owners with inflated rents that do not allow them NOT TO BE PROFITABLE ANYMORE. "downtown" Linden Hills has been a ghost town ever since the CO-OP left” I agree, the small businesses in Linden Hills are not profitable anymore, and that is not going to change. AND .“"downtown" Linden Hills has been a ghost town ever since the CO-OP left””, and after a year of business Settegren’s Hardware does not draw customers to the area. (except for the Farmers market on Sundays) Settegren’s Hardware was a bigger fish that destroyed the smaller fish Bayers Family Hardware. Now bigger fish will destroy them, Frattallone’s Hardware, Jerrys, Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Menards, Target, etc.. Live by the sword, die by the sword. What goes around comes around. Karma. It is hard to feel sorry for the businesses in Linden Hills. They want competition and pure capitalism, so they must accept the results when big businesses make them unprofitable or drives them out of business. ““This is a capitalist society, so we use our dollars to vote and we go to the place that we feel benefits ourselves,” says Becky Hanson, president of the Linden Hills Business Association. “But as far as two businesses going side by side that are competitors, I don’t think that is unusual in this marketplace” http://tcbmag.com/Industries/Retail-and-Hospitality/Capitalist-Tools?page=2
Steven F Brown August 15, 2012 at 01:42 AM
This building is graceless and bulky and lacking any imagination or charm. Why am I not surprised? Who comes up with this dreary stuff? It looks like they really did not even try to make anything that would fit in. Was this some cheap model they had on hand for a windy corner in Bloomington that was never built? And why are there so many buildings around that look like this one that have "For Rent" signs hanging for years in the empty windows where businesses were supposed to just FLOCK to them?...And why are the existing condos around here 25-50% rental as there are no buyers if there is such a big demand? This was tiring a year ago. Steven F. Brown
Tami S August 15, 2012 at 02:40 AM
LH, Jeff Z, Joseph Albright, brian ehlers, Steven F Brown – excellent analysis “The design is so bland and suburban and already overdone throughout the city. It in no way fits in or matches with the existing storefronts and buildings. The loss of a restaurant and the little corner park is also really a shame. .. expected more from the architects.” “This building is graceless and bulky and lacking any imagination or charm…It looks like they really did not even try to make anything that would fit in. And why are there so many buildings around that look like this one that have "For Rent" signs hanging for years in the empty windows where businesses were supposed to just FLOCK to them?..” “It's unfortunate that this project is going to dominate the appearance of downtown Linden Hills in a major way .. a limited number of people dictate … that look will be for Linden Hills.” “Linden Hills will turn into nothing more than a strip mall.” “And why are the existing condos around here 25-50% rental as there are no buyers if there is such a big demand? This was tiring a year ago.” “We cannot call it historic Linden Hills any more.” “It is a sad time, some day we are going to look back and regret our short sightedness, we are going to regret the closing of Bayers Family Hardware.” “Within a few years the Linden Hills business district will be dead, there is nothing unique or historic in Linden Hills anymore” “This will all end in tears”

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